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SuperJail Warden
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Since 1998, people all over the world have been living healthier and living longer. But middle-aged, white non-Hispanics in the United States have been getting sicker and dying in greater numbers. The trend is being driven primarily by people with a high-school degree or less.

That's the sobering takeaway from a paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences published this week.
Between 1978 to 1998, the mortality rate for U.S. whites aged 45 to 54 fell by 2 percent per year on average, which matched the average rate of decline in the six countries shown, and the average over all other industrialized countries. After 1998, other rich countries’ mortality rates continued to decline by 2 percent a year. In contrast, U.S. white non-Hispanic mortality rose by half a percent a year. No other rich country saw a similar turnaround.
That means “half a million people are dead who should not be dead,” Angus Deaton, the 2015 Nobel laureate in economics and co-author of the paper, told The Washington Post. “About 40 times the Ebola stats. You’re getting up there with HIV-AIDS.”

The reasons for the increased death rate are not the usual things that kill Americans, like diabetes and heart disease. Rather, it’s suicide, alcohol and drug poisonings, and alcohol-related liver disease.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi … as/413971/

Suicide is already hard to talk about but we need to discuss this. White males of average intelligence have made up the backbone of American society since its inception. They have fought our wars and filled our factories. Their dying at a higher rate than everyone else is a serious social problem.

For centuries white males in the western world have had more opportunities than everyone else but that is no longer the case. Due to mass immigration, globalization, outsourcing, structural shifts in the American household, and mass media, white males have it harder than ever. And some have unfairly internalized their failure. And that leads to self destructive habits and suicide.

What can the government and society do to make sure America's traditional power base do not continue to die at higher rates than their national and global peers? Ending immigration and outsourcing is one immediate solution but there has to be more.
pirana6
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+625|3822|Washington St.
mac, for the love of god, go outside this weekend. go camping. go see nature. go drive to the coast and sleep in your car and watch the sun set *oops wrong coast rise.
there's some real shitty things going on in this world but it's not as you think.

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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,959|2889|London, England
I think he's pulling this shit from Trumps website
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+625|3822|Washington St.
you know what always made me feel better when i was jaded about the world, or just depressed about shit? watching live music. alone, with people, didn't really matter. whatever the genre (as long as it was relatively mild, i.e. not metal/hard rock).

i'm sure somebody who's taking psych 101 or some basic shit could tell me why.

mac, go watch some live music somewhere. got a jazz club near you?

Last edited by pirana6 (2015-11-04 16:42:20)

SuperJail Warden
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You guys should be taking this more seriously. It affects you.
unnamednewbie13
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I told myself I would ignore these threads, but using suicide statistics to offhandedly prop up white nationalism is just despicable.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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The statistics are interesting, low-skilled white males are slipping back for some reason.
Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I told myself I would ignore these threads, but using suicide statistics to offhandedly prop up white nationalism is just despicable.
I am not even white. How can I prop up white nationalism? ¯\(°_o)/¯

A large segment of American society regressing isn't good for me and everyone else. And this is the only group it is happening to. Everyone should care about this.

And you should feel bad for crying racism.
unnamednewbie13
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What's there for me to feel bad about? You were the one who turned it into saying the country should be more insular and closed to immigration.
SuperJail Warden
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What's wrong with being more insular and closed to immigration? How is that racist? I am not judging or denigrating other races. I have nothing but respect and curiosity for other races and culture. It's about running a good ship not about racial or cultural supremacy. Other lifestyles are just as valid as our own.

It's funny hearing some of the people who are calling me a racist on this site talk about racial subjects. Jay doesn't like Asians moving into his city and calls them the "yellow plague" when he is with his white friends. But he supports immigration and thus isn't a bad guy. I date, learn about, live near, and read Asian news websites but am a white supremacist for worrying about immigration affects on the U.S. Jay has called me a nigger spic many times. I don't recall you ever taking a stand against that.
unnamednewbie13
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You hijacked white suicide statistics and turned it into an "immigration" thing. You know, US political talk for "brown people." That you aren't white just makes it even more weird.

Ending immigration and outsourcing is one immediate solution.
If that's all you wanted to wave the flag for, why not just put it in some other 'Murica thread?
SuperJail Warden
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Well, however else people use the word "immigration" has nothing to do with me.

So, what’s eating less-educated Boomers?

One persuasive explanation, and one the researchers put forth, is financial strain. Jobs in fields like manufacturing and construction, which were historically filled by people without college degrees, have been evaporating quickly over the past 15 years. As I’ve written previously, less-educated people are more likely to be unemployed and to make less, so they struggle to afford things like therapy, gym memberships, and recreation that isn’t drugs. Without jobs, they may lack the social networks and sense of purpose that have shown to reduce mortality.

Nearly half of Americans in their 40s and 50s don’t have enough money saved for retirement to live as they’re accustomed to, even if they work until they’re 65. All of this is crashing down on Boomers, who were raised on the promise of the American Dream.
And the part regarding finances is right there in the article. I highlighted the line regarding jobs disappearing in manufacturing and construction because those areas are the areas where illegal immigrants have subplanted poor whites the most. In the same year the death rate started increasing, the illegal immigrant population stood at 5 million and has increased since then to anywhere between 11-22 million people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_i … .27_method


The author of the article interviewed someone who said that there were half a million white men who should have been alive rather than die. I am sure many of them lost opportunities due to the up to 17 million illegal immigrants competing for their work.
SuperJail Warden
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Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for'
As many as three quarters of a million young people in the UK may feel that they have nothing to live for, a study for the Prince's Trust charity claims.

The trust says almost a third of long-term unemployed young people have contemplated taking their own lives.
Urgent action must be taken to prevent the young jobless becoming the young hopeless, it says. The government commented that it was doing "everything possible" to help young people find work.

The Prince's Trust Macquarie Youth Index was based on interviews with 2,161 16 to 25-year-olds. Of these, 281 were classified as Neet (not in employment, education or training) and 166 of these Neets had been unemployed for over six months. The report found 9% of all respondents agreed with the statement: "I have nothing to live for" and said if 9% of all youngsters felt the same, it would equate to some 751,230 young people feeling they had nothing to live for. Among those respondents classified as Neet, the percentage of those agreeing with the statement rose to 21%.

The research found that long-term unemployed young people were more than twice as likely as their peers to have been prescribed anti-depressants.
One in three (32%) had contemplated suicide, while one in four (24%) had self-harmed.
http://www.bbc.com/news/education-25559089


It is happening to young people too. More immigration especially refugees from the middle east is not going to help your average British youth. Why is it taboo to suggest our nations focus on our citizens before they grow up the community pool?
Cybargs
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lol macbeth is on the anti-immigrant diatribe. top kek.
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SuperJail Warden
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Well, if the economy gets too bad and there are immigrants all over the place in America, and the western world , there will probably be violence against them. It has happened before. It can happen before. It is either we slow down immigration or it is off to the gas chambers unfortunately.
pirana6
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There are immigrants all over the US and western world. In fact, unless you live in east-central Africa, you're in immigrant.
Cybargs
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Well, if the economy gets too bad and there are immigrants all over the place in America, and the western world , there will probably be violence against them. It has happened before. It can happen before. It is either we slow down immigration or it is off to the gas chambers unfortunately.
lawl.
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SuperJail Warden
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I wouldn't laugh if I were you. This affects you more than me. You are one anti-ship ballistic missile away from being an Arab on 9/11.
coke
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You're an immigrant though aren't you...?
MajorSpittle
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Hey, I'm a Middle-Aged White American.......... *gulp*

I wish all the non-whites would stop breeding like rabbits and invading our yards.  How would China like it if we started showing up there by the millions and setting up shop with our own language and customs, or if millions of our poorest trailer trash southerners jumped the fence and took over every Mexican border town and force people to learn English, or if we sold millions of Whites into slavery to Blacks and shipped them off to Africa by the butt load only to be freed later with a giant chip on their shoulder against blacky..........

sigh, but I degress.  Having white skin is such a burden, I wish I had darker skin :-(
SuperJail Warden
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coke wrote:

You're an immigrant though aren't you...?
Nope. I care deeply about avoiding such situation anyway though. I strongly condemn the views of expressed by MajorSpittle.
coke
Aye up duck!
+435|4240|England. Stoke
Jesus, I thought the level of conversation on this site was pretty low then MajorSpittle joined and started posting Mac's threads and vice-versa...
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,959|2889|London, England

coke wrote:

Jesus, I thought the level of conversation on this site was pretty low then MajorSpittle joined and started posting Mac's threads and vice-versa...
There's never truly a rock-bottom
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
coke
Aye up duck!
+435|4240|England. Stoke

Jay wrote:

coke wrote:

Jesus, I thought the level of conversation on this site was pretty low then MajorSpittle joined and started posting Mac's threads and vice-versa...
There's never truly a rock-bottom
We must be getting near it though right, maybe if Shifty, Warman and Pace came back it could get worse.
Cybargs
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MajorSpittle wrote:

Hey, I'm a Middle-Aged White American.......... *gulp*

I wish all the non-whites would stop breeding like rabbits and invading our yards.  How would China like it if we started showing up there by the millions and setting up shop with our own language and customs, or if millions of our poorest trailer trash southerners jumped the fence and took over every Mexican border town and force people to learn English, or if we sold millions of Whites into slavery to Blacks and shipped them off to Africa by the butt load only to be freed later with a giant chip on their shoulder against blacky..........

sigh, but I degress.  Having white skin is such a burden, I wish I had darker skin :-(
i dont think they'd really care. they love white people.
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