you really are pathetic. you've been going on about a comparison of caffeine and lsd for three pages, insisting on it. i just gave you a long list of the nasty aspects of caffeine, all exacerbated by the fact it's lethal dose ratio is much smaller (yes it matters in those 'uncontrolled' every day scenarios you talk about; people overdose and have physical complications from drinking too much coffee or red bull, that will never happen with taking too much LSD) and by the fact it interacts with the dependency and habit-forming dopaminergic parts of the brain. in comparison i linked several studies saying flat out that LSD is physiologically harmless, neutral, leaves the liver and kidneys rapidly with no problem, etc.
Dilbert_X wrote:So if you're the big expert on neuro-chemistry how did you end up tripping out?
uziq wrote:no, because those drugs are harmful and have lots of terrible physiological effects. acid and mushrooms don't.
then you start going on about something i did 8 years ago as a university student involving ... a drug similar to caffeine. is this really how you argue? 'if i was such an expert on neurochemistry?' hey moron, i was doing a lot of a drug that was habit forming and fucking with my dopamine and seratonin. a drug that acts in the same way as caffeine does, albeit in a stronger way. i'm here arguing that lsd is less harmful than caffeine. hello?!?!? your pathetic dive into ad hominem attacks is just tacitly proving my exact point. jesus fucking christ.
meanwhile you talk about 'day to day' harms of lsd use (as if people will take it more than a handful of times on their whole life; one trip lasts about 6-8 hours and it has been completely metabolised before the mental effects even wear off...) and start going on about people jumping out of windows (an infamous urban myth, whilst studies state that out of 10,000+ sample groups the only adverse mental reactions with lasting health effects was the same % as those who have mental health emergencies from ANY other form of psychotherapy).
just admit you lost. it might be a valuable skill to learn now you're thinking about finally leaving your mother's nest at 50 and meeting women. i can happily admit i made a mistake with my cavalier attitude to cathinones and now respect everyday addictive drugs like caffeine much more as a result.
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