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UnkleRukus
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+236|2479|Massachusetts, USA

Trotskygrad wrote:

Uzique wrote:

randomized spawn system? why would you play anything other than s&d if you're into a game 'seriously' and want 'serious' critique? and the opening gambit of cod1/cod2 was one of the best things: knowing the trick-nade spots, the timings and getting the early advantage. it's not all bad.
we were talking about why it had appeal in the main modes that are played online... TDM

imo the grind that is TDM is not fun at all, I'm asking him why he thinks others may find it fun.

you probably think they find it fun because the masses are stupid,
A lot of people who play the newer cods play with their friends, so it's a social thing. That's why it's fun to a lot of people.
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

Uzique wrote:

randomized spawn system? why would you play anything other than s&d if you're into a game 'seriously' and want 'serious' critique? and the opening gambit of cod1/cod2 was one of the best things: knowing the trick-nade spots, the timings and getting the early advantage. it's not all bad.
we were talking about why it had appeal in the main modes that are played online... TDM

imo the grind that is TDM is not fun at all, I'm asking him why he thinks others may find it fun.

you probably think they find it fun because the masses are stupid,
A lot of people who play the newer cods play with their friends, so it's a social thing. That's why it's fun to a lot of people.
Yup.  When my son's and friends play, it's practically just S&D and Domination.  They rarely play TDM.  It's a social thing, especially working as a team and owning randoms.  All about losing the second match so you can build up that kill streak, and let loose with the Blackbird, and helo's on round three.
Trotskygrad
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

I can't wait to see more tactical cowboy guns.

Hopefully we'll get a 45.70 trapdoor gun that we can attach an under-slung grenade launcher to.

Or a Single-Action Army with an Ay-See-Oh-Gee scope on it
I want a tactical punt gun
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Dude, maybe you could like, but a red-dot-sight on that shit!

Or maybe, a tactical knife!

Or full metal jacket ammo. Even though FMJ is the standard ammo that is almost always the only ammo being used if it is in the realm of military/police weapons so why it is an attachment is beyond me but put that shit in anyway.

Also dual wielding with the shiva perk.





Shiva pro lets you throw two grenades at once.
blended metal rounds

blackwater approved

put that shit in a arquebus

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Last edited by Trotskygrad (2011-05-18 10:12:26)

Trotskygrad
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but see cod isn't really a game that supports teamwork.

It's a lot more fun to heavy-med in TF2 (as fucked up is TF2 is nowadays) then to run around as 2 people in CoD
Graphic-J
The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J
+196|3569|So Cal

Trotskygrad wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

Never said it was a good game.
Its fun, but its far from good.
well I think cod gets boring after a while because it simply lacks the ability to pull of things that require a lot of skill... when you killstreak it feels that you got lucky(ish), and it's easy to pull a 1:1 K/D just spraying randomly from the hip and following movement patterns like a bot.

I don't get how that's "fun" to people
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Trotskygrad
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the other game modes can be fun (both respawn headquarters/domination), but TDM is basically the standard cod game mode, the one that the game is designed around. and it sucks.

most commentary videos on YT are about TDM iirc.
Uzique
dasein.
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CoD was designed around search and destroy, team deathmatch was an afterthought.

you talk so much bullshit it's unbelievable.
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Trotskygrad
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Uzique wrote:

CoD was designed around search and destroy, team deathmatch was an afterthought.

you talk so much bullshit it's unbelievable.
evidence please

if CoD4 was designed around the 5v5 S&D that is played so often in competitive matches, why are there killstreaks for 7 kills?

I know they carry over between rounds, it just seems like the evidence points to the fact that it was designed and balanced for TDM as opposed to S&D

Last edited by Trotskygrad (2011-05-19 10:06:20)

Uzique
dasein.
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cod4 wasn't the start of the franchise... you're talking with the authority as if you've played all of them (which you clearly haven't). call of duty on the pc has always been about search and destroy, the community has bound around it and pretty much every single public ladder/league has all ran on s&d format instead of tdm. the whole point of kill-streaks, properly, in s&d is that they are more tactical and more limited. in tdm it's shit because it's all so chaotic. s&d is much more controlled and refined.

and where are you getting it from that s&d is designed around 5v5?
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Trotskygrad
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Uzique wrote:

cod4 wasn't the start of the franchise... you're talking with the authority as if you've played all of them (which you clearly haven't). call of duty on the pc has always been about search and destroy, the community has bound around it and pretty much every single public ladder/league has all ran on s&d format instead of tdm. the whole point of kill-streaks, properly, in s&d is that they are more tactical and more limited. in tdm it's shit because it's all so chaotic. s&d is much more controlled and refined.

and where are you getting it from that s&d is designed around 5v5?
5v5 is the most common S&D that is played in competitive matches, as far as I know.

Competitive matches are S&D, and it makes sense, as it's the most tactical gamemode.

yes CoD on the PC has traditionally been about S&D, but the first beta for CoD4 was on the 360

It was a more console game overall, and the shift in balancing and focus from S&D on the PC to TDM in on consoles seems evident.

I'm not denying that earlier games were balanced around S&D, I'm just arguing that CoD4 has more of an emphasis on TDM, more so than on S&D.

Last edited by Trotskygrad (2011-05-19 10:25:55)

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|4134|Devon, England
You don't know anything because you don't obsess over the FACT that these new games aren't CoD1/2 in 90% of your posts.
unnamednewbie13
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+1,741|4215|Banoi, PNG

Call of Duty: Postmodern Warfare: MainstreamUnderground Ops
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|3913

FFLink wrote:

You don't know anything because you don't obsess over the FACT that these new games aren't CoD1/2 in 90% of your posts.
i played cod4 competitively and have bought every single cod game (much to the dent in my wallet's pride) since. i've played them.

and yeah, unnamed... right on! cod1/cod2 were the most popular fps games of their time/type on pc. way to go, soo underground!
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unnamednewbie13
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lol, I wasn't hammering on CoD in general. I was just making fun of Modern Warfare. I think it would be a cool title, though.
Trotskygrad
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postmodern infers something is in a postmodern style, which does describe a game like that, I think Uzique thinks
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|3913
a) what a headfuck of a sentence... go take up a grammar and syntax guidebook
b) what a headfuck of a point... it makes no sense even when i do the writing-work for you
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Trotskygrad
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lol

I think that you think that postmodern is a term that applies to the philosophy, which is why you don't like newbie's name.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|3913
that still doesn't make any sense, at all. postmodern is a phrase that applies to the philosophy? i don't like newbie's name? pardon?

do you understand postmodernism?
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Trotskygrad
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yeees

w/e, nvm. It appears that you didn't have a gripe with the  "postmodern warfare" part of the name, just the "underground ops"
Uzique
dasein.
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postmodern warfare doesn't make any sense... neither does underground ops.

and inferring any sort of link between postmodernity and hipsterism is another /facepalm.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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And the games themselves make a whole lot of sense, is that it?
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Poseidon
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Meh. Cool that they have the new WTC in the game, but that's about all that appealed to me.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|3913
how fucking lame can you get? it's awful hollywood kitsch; trivial tourist pastiche; making conventionality and predictability a design art.

also lol at the falling-over building and sprawling cinematics... it's basically ripped straight from battlefield 3's 'teaser' material.

if this is the direction the fps gaming industry is seriously heading in then i'm very, very disappointed

omg though at the twin towers and big ben and stuff! they're like totally non-fictional places!
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KuSTaV
noice
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I'll bite the bullet and say this looks pretty good.
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