Spark
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AussieReaper wrote:

The point is spark, that those who are die hard Liberals and would vote Liberal anyway, are the people that are arguing to Abbott that they should reject this bill.

Why the Coalition think moving further to the right is good strategy is anyone's guess. They are fighting for votes they would be getting anyway.

edit:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/op … 5804740400

This was a good take on it ^
Right, but that's a rather hollow argument don't you think?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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I was just browsing Tuesday's Hansard (that was the day of the first leadership spill), on question time: and I found this gem:
Mr RUDD—I do admire the member for Farrer’s treatment of chronology! For the actual years that she is talking about, I do not have those figures in front of me—I just do not. But I do happen to have a few other figures for the years that she spoke about, because I thought she might ask this question, which has just been asked in the Senate, which is about arrivals by plane. Let me go to the years that she was just talking
about. Total asylum seekers arriving—but we do not want that, do we?

Opposition members interjecting—

Mr Pyne—Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The Prime Minister of course is extremely powerful but it is not within his gift to change the question to a question about plane arrivals. It was a question about boat people and that is how he should answer it.

The SPEAKER—Order! The member for Sturt will resume his seat. Order! The Prime Minister is responding to the question.

Mr RUDD—I said in terms of the figures that the honourable member is in search of that I did not have them available to me. But what I do have available, because it has been a matter in the public debate and I have just been informed that it has been raised in the Senate, and obviously the member for Sturt is very sensitive about the thousands who came here—

Mr Pyne—Mr Speaker, on a point of order, the Prime Minister is a member of the House of Representatives. It is not up to him to answer questions that have been asked in the Senate. If he wants to get a question on people who arrive by plane he should answer a dorothy dixer from his own side.

The SPEAKER—Order, the Manager of Opposition Business will resume his seat.

Mr Pyne interjecting—

The SPEAKER—The member for Sturt is warned! I am not sure when he was at the dispatch box the Manager for Opposition Business was actually raising a point of order on relevance, because he referred to the Senate question. But I just say that the Prime Minister is responding to the question. The chair has not got the power to decide the way in which the Prime Minister responds to questions. With due respect I will assist the Manager of Opposition Business by indicating to him that I suggest he research the conduct of this place during the last parliament. He will find that the Prime Minister of the day would say that where terminology, as in this question, used asylum seekers, unauthorised arrivals, if in fact the response made reference to those things it fulfilled the relevance standing order, and I am in agreement with that until the Procedure Committee gives the House a suggestion about different standing orders.

Mr Pyne—On the point of order, Mr Speaker, with great respect to your ruling, the standing order 104 says that an answer must be relevant to the question. If you, as the Speaker, are not prepared to rule that a question that was asked in the Senate about boat people arrivals from plane is relevant to this question, then who is supposed to rule that it is irrelevant to the question? Who is supposed to do that if you do not do it? The

SPEAKER—I am not ruling anything about the possibility that you have a problem about a Senate question. A question was asked in this place by the member for Farrer. Included in that question was reference to unauthorised arrivals and asylum seekers. I am saying to you—

Mr Snowdon—Shut up, loser!

The SPEAKER—Order! The Minister for Indigenous Health, Rural and Regional Health and Regional Service Delivery is warned! We will move on. The Prime Minister has the call.
Insert derisive laughter from about 50 opposition members at about every pause in Rudd and the Speaker's bits and you might get a sense.

More, from the same Question Time:

Mr KEENAN (3.00 pm)—Mr Speaker, my question is again to the Prime Minister. When the Prime Minister says, as he did in relation to my previous question, ‘From my perspective, good news all round,’ does he mean that it is good news to see the back of the CFMEU and he gets to keep their money? Or will he instruct the National Secretary of the Australian Labor Party to send those donations back?

Mr RUDD—Mr Speaker, on the first part of the question—

Ms Gillard interjecting—

The SPEAKER—Order!

Ms Gillard interjecting—

Opposition members interjecting—

The SPEAKER—Order! The Prime Minister has the call!

Mr RUDD—This seems to result in considerable animation all round!

Ms Gillard interjecting—

Opposition members interjecting—

The SPEAKER—Order! A number of members on the frontbench on my left and the Deputy Prime Minister are denying the Prime Minister the call.
The SPEAKER—The Prime Minister will resume his seat. The member for North Sydney on a point of order.

Mr Martin Ferguson interjecting—

Mr Crean interjecting—

The SPEAKER—Order!

Mr Martin Ferguson interjecting—

The SPEAKER—The member for North Sydney on a point of order.

Mr Hockey—No brown paper bags on our side, mate.
Mr SULLIVAN (3.06 pm)—Thank you, Mr Speaker.

Mr Hockey interjecting—

Mr Dutton interjecting—

Mr SULLIVAN—Mr Speaker, do I have to wait for Tweetle-dee and Tweetle-dumb?
I suppose they ban all objects that can be  swung or thrown during Question Time lest an all out brawl start.
The SPEAKER—Has the Treasurer concluded? Has the Treasurer concluded? Treasurer?

Mr Hockey—Just bring Ken Henry in

Mr Albanese—Mr Speaker, that was an outrageous slur on the Secretary of the Treasury, which is now on the record.

An opposition member—He’s an ignorant Treasurer!

A government member—Don’t be so ridiculous!

Mr Anthony Smith—Well, he is an idiot! Put that on the record, too.

Last edited by Spark (2009-11-29 04:31:50)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Mind you, thanks to Senator Fielding the Senate is no less good at providing a source of hilarity:

Senator FIELDING (Victoria—Leader of the Family First Party) (10.23 am)—I seek leave to make a short statement.

The PRESIDENT—Leave is granted for two minutes.

Senator FIELDING—A bloke cannot marry his brother; it is not right. A woman cannot marry their sister; it is not right. A bloke cannot marry a bloke because it is not right and a female cannot marry a female because it is not right.

Honourable senators interjecting—

Senator FIELDING—No, I don’t support this.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Flecco
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Tbh Question Time for the house of reps has some of the best insults I've ever heard thrown around.


Often very glib, subtle and witty. Always entertaining.
Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
AussieReaper
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Keating was always the best.


“Because I want to do you slow!"
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I am already bored with Australian politics.
Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
AussieReaper
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I am already bored with Australian politics.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/25/the … o-spreads/

https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
Flecco
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I am already bored with Australian politics.
Beats American politics.


Ours has comedy value.
Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
Cybargs
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Flecco wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I am already bored with Australian politics.
Beats American politics.


Ours has comedy value.
Taiwanese politics has a mix of comedy and MMA.
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
Dilbert_X
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Flecco wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I am already bored with Australian politics.
Beats American politics.


Ours has comedy value.
But so little happens, its all the same issues over and over, by the time anyone gets round to doing anything its time for another election.

There are serious things to address, climate change, water, broadband network to start with and we're still waiting on backroom bickering.
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Flecco
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Vids pls.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I am already bored with Australian politics.
Beats American politics.


Ours has comedy value.
But so little happens, its all the same issues over and over, by the time anyone gets round to doing anything its time for another election.

There are serious things to address, climate change, water, broadband network to start with and we're still waiting on backroom bickering.
That's normal under a Labour Govt.


As opposed to the Libs who rush into things, often with very little thought or discussion on potential ramifications beyond the immediate future. The Liberal Party is like the John Rambo of politics. Firing from the hip, never mind what the public actually thinks of something at the time. (GST, Work Choices, shoddy handling of illegal immigrants, Iraq War commitments, AWB)

Last edited by Flecco (2009-11-29 05:23:51)

Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
mcminty
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Flecco wrote:

Tbh Question Time for the house of reps has some of the best insults I've ever heard thrown around.


Often very glib, subtle and witty. Always entertaining.
Lol, I saw some of question time last week. Was drinking with my bro, and we somehow ended up watching Question Time for the Senate. My bro said "Hey, it's Penny Wong.. minister for lesbian affairs".

The senate was fucking boring. Mhaybbe I should go see the QT for the House of Reps..
Flecco
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Yeah, most often QT in the House of Reps is pretty slow but in a good week there will be blood flying.
Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
Spark
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Steve Fielding says he has held a Family First partyroom meeting to discuss with “me, myself and I” the possibility of wooing climate change sceptics to his party. “We’re going to discuss accepting disinfected (sic) members from Labor and Liberal whether they want to join Family First,” Fielding said.
Sic, indeed.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
AussieReaper
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lmao Fielding is a nutcase.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
Spark
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The ABC understands Opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey will challenge Malcolm Turnbull for the Liberal leadership if the party's MPs are given a "free vote" on the emissions trading scheme (ETS).

That would give the Government the numbers it requires to get the bill through the Upper House, despite the deep split in the Coalition over the issue.

Mr Hockey is on the record as having supported the amended ETS deal being voted on in the Senate.
Big news this. Hockey will get the job, Rudd will get his ETS on time.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
BN
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Serious question:

Would any ossie on here vote for Joe Hockey?
Flecco
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BN wrote:

Serious question:

Would any ossie on here vote for Joe Hockey?
Yes.

Just as I'd vote for Turnbull.



Probably wouldn't have voted for Downer or Abbott though.
Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|4090|Canberra, AUS
Abbott's still running.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Fuck him. Good minister/shadow-minister.


Not a good leader.




Btw I wouldn't have voted for Nelson. Would have voted for Brough.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Before you start shit about the intervention how about some of you visit Lajamanu, Ski Beach, Rammo or Port Keats.

Last edited by Flecco (2009-11-30 02:32:40)

Australian culture is about two things, football and racism.

I never know what to kick.
Burwhale
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BN wrote:

Serious question:

Would any ossie on here vote for Joe Hockey?
Not me, but that shouldnt come as a suprise.

When Turnbull gets thrown out tomorrow, it will raise some interesting questions about what will happen to his  Seat of Wentworth. After the treatment he has been given i cant see him hanging around on the backbench. So he would either resign or go independant. If he resigns there may be a chance the libs lose his seat in a byelection. Wentworth used to be a very safe seat for them.  This just keeps getting better!

The govt could introduce compulsory dog raping legislation at the moment and no one would notice.
Burwhale
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Flecco wrote:

That's normal under a Labour Govt.


As opposed to the Libs who rush into things, often with very little thought or discussion on potential ramifications beyond the immediate future. The Liberal Party is like the John Rambo of politics. Firing from the hip, never mind what the public actually thinks of something at the time. (GST, Work Choices, shoddy handling of illegal immigrants, Iraq War commitments, AWB)
Remember that the current govt has to get legislation through a hostile senate. Everything it puts up gets bogged down and stalled by the opposition. The liberal govt owned the senate when it was in power ( for the later years anyway) so they had the opportunity to do whatever they liked. I am sure more would get done if Labor had a senate majority, but I dont think anyone really wants that ( Labor stooges excluded).
AussieReaper
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Yeah but at the moment people like Barnaby Joyce have too much power because there vote is so important.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
tazz.
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d4rkph03n1x wrote:

Tbh politics of my own country doesn't even bother me. I just play games, work, and drink.. I'll be back in 3 years when I can be bothered caring who does what. Just don't fuck with my internets and i'll be fine.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Spark
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AussieReaper wrote:

Yeah but at the moment people like Stephen Fielding have too much power because there vote is so important.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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