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Mogwai - Friend of the Night
Mogwai - Auto Rock

I've been looking for somewhat relaxed, mellow and repetitive music to listen to as ambiance. Most ambient music, however, has no dynamic contrast and gets a little boring. Both of the above songs have great climaxes, Auto Rock being essentially one big crescendo. They're a forerunner of post-rock, rock instrumentation (plus some piano) used in rather relaxed and melodic ways.

@.Sup: Yes, big fan of Jazz here, I play all flavors of sax. I've been listening to something a friend tells me is "acid jazz"; electronica with some jazz instrumentation. Amon Tobin does mostly electronica, but the Permutation album has a lot of jazz on it, Nova being my favorite. If you're not familiar with Amon Tobin, but watch Top Gear, you may recognize Easy Muffin.
KEN-JENNINGS
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Amon Tobin is solid...check out other artists from NinjaTune if you like jazz-oriented ambient electronica.
Metal-Eater-GR
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Defiance wrote:

Mogwai - Friend of the Night
Mogwai - Auto Rock

I've been looking for somewhat relaxed, mellow and repetitive music to listen to as ambiance. Most ambient music, however, has no dynamic contrast and gets a little boring. Both of the above songs have great climaxes, Auto Rock being essentially one big crescendo. They're a forerunner of post-rock, rock instrumentation (plus some piano) used in rather relaxed and melodic ways.

@.Sup: Yes, big fan of Jazz here, I play all flavors of sax. I've been listening to something a friend tells me is "acid jazz"; electronica with some jazz instrumentation. Amon Tobin does mostly electronica, but the Permutation album has a lot of jazz on it, Nova being my favorite. If you're not familiar with Amon Tobin, but watch Top Gear, you may recognize Easy Muffin.
Very nice songs. Concerning acid jazz,
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Little BaBy JESUS
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Hooch Pandersnatch wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Dirge For November - Opeth

Porcelain Heart - Opeth
Even if you're not a metal fan these songs are simply amazing.

Check it out, seriously. Opeth is one of the most musically "intelligent" bands of our time. Their harmonies, their use of "light and shade" and their ability to convey the mood of the lyrics/images/progression so clearly is amazing. Also, their use of complex rhythms, poly rhythms, unusual time signatures and very their unique harmonies create a very distinctive sound.

I'm in love with these guys at the moment. They have an album for any mood I'm I can never get sick of listening to them.
(This is all just my opinion though)
Those songs ain't bad but I prefer The Grand Conjuration and Demon of the Fall.

Nice description of the bands' musical styling.
Love those songs as well
DonFck
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Hooch Pandersnatch wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Dirge For November - Opeth

Porcelain Heart - Opeth
Even if you're not a metal fan these songs are simply amazing.

Check it out, seriously. Opeth is one of the most musically "intelligent" bands of our time. Their harmonies, their use of "light and shade" and their ability to convey the mood of the lyrics/images/progression so clearly is amazing. Also, their use of complex rhythms, poly rhythms, unusual time signatures and very their unique harmonies create a very distinctive sound.

I'm in love with these guys at the moment. They have an album for any mood I'm I can never get sick of listening to them.
(This is all just my opinion though)
Those songs ain't bad but I prefer The Grand Conjuration and Demon of the Fall.

Nice description of the bands' musical styling.
Love those songs as well
Opeth is awesomeness. Better on recordings than live though.
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Uzique
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Nuff said.
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Uzique
dasein.
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I'm going to try and keep my recommendations here as abstract and esoteric as possible, as I'll easily dispense recommendations for any well-known or well-recognized genre/niche elsewhere... will try and give some exposure to artists that need far more fans!

For fans of experimental indie or good-vibes noise/rock'n'roll/lo-fi:

HEALTH
Crocodiles
Crystal Stilts

For those seeking a dance-orientated or electronic record-of-the-week:

Shinichi Osawa
Dorian Concept
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|4204|St. Andrews / Oslo

Thanks, I'll try some of those "indie or good-vibes noise/rock'n'roll/lo-fi" bands later today.

Zimmer reccomended me The Decemberists yesterday. Apparently they are "indie, folk, lo.fi, pop, concept, rock, alternative", whatever that means. It's good, anyway.
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Uzique
dasein.
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The Decemberists are like one of the big 'must listen' American/Canadian indie bands. Like Neutral Milk Hotel or Death Cab For Cutie.

Some of their stuff is great but after a while the vocal style starts to nag me a bit. It sounds to me like they're over-cooking the folk-vocals a bit.
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Jenspm
penis
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so, what is lo.fi anyway?
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liquidat0r
wtf.
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Uzique
dasein.
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Music with a DIY ethic, really. Characterized by lo-fi recording quality- vintage two-tracks or walls of fuzz and distortion. Sometimes the highly-refined and polished 'indie' album just seems a little soul-less, as well as slightly ironic. Listening to bands like The Decemberists, you're pretty much listening to the Lady Gaga's of the 'indie' umbrella. They're token, overdone... I don't really like the perfect-mixing and over-produced quality of their albums. Lo-fi is a creative and aesthetic reaction against these mainstream record-company releases-- it's raw, it's full of passion and energy, and it includes all of the rough edges and dirt that a genre tagged as 'indie' more rightfully deserves. There's no point terming yourself as an ind(ie)pendent band when your albums are recorded at the same quality and studio as The Pussycat Dolls latest LP. It just becomes a boring, flat mess.
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Jenspm
penis
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okay...

So do they record in lo-fi because it's "cool", or because they can't afford better equipment?

edit: I think 'zique answered my question.

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Uzique
dasein.
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It can be for practical/economical reasons or for creative reasons.

I don't think the common-view is that lo-fi is 'cool', or 'cooler' than hi-fi bands, as such. It's just an artistic and stylistic decision that an artist/band makes. It attracts listeners such as myself that have perhaps grown tired of the more polished and over-produced direction that 'indie' music has taken in the last 10-15 years since becoming so paradoxically popular. Some lo-fi bands are just as popular as the indie-scene figureheads though-- don't have the illusion that it's an underground-scene of 'too cool for indie' kids. Deerhunter, Mt.Eerie and The Mountain Goats are three acts that are just as well-known as any indie band, and they record with heavy lo-fi (and shoegaze) elements.

Lo-fi and noise-rock are slightly different labels, anyway. They overlap though, for obvious reasons. One of my favourites of recent times is Wavves.

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Jenspm
penis
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I see.


So, any reccomendations for indie folk/pop that isn't very lo.fi/noisy/whatever? Meh, I dunno how to catogorize them lol, basically stuff like The Dodos, The Decemberists, Bowerbirds, Fleet Foxes?
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Uzique
dasein.
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Grizzly Bear.

Their latest album (Veckatimest or something, can't remember the spelling) is one of the best-examples of perfectly-recorded indie, ever.

Every nuance of their sound has been tweaked to perfection.
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SEREVENT
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Jenspm wrote:

I see.


So, any reccomendations for indie folk/pop that isn't very lo.fi/noisy/whatever? Meh, I dunno how to catogorize them lol, basically stuff like The Dodos, The Decemberists, Bowerbirds, Fleet Foxes?
I like Fleet Foxes
liquidat0r
wtf.
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So I just did a really quick scan of various torrent trackers and warez sites and took a quick note of the number of times that Jay-Z's new album (Blueprint 3) has been downloaded ...

I then took my calculator and added them up. The total came to 16858. And that's just after about 5mins of searching on just 7 websites.

I read a survey (that I cannot find the link to) that said that illegal music downloads account for 18% of music downloads. With 25% of the market belonging to iTunes and about 7" to Amazon (the largest share in the marked was "Other").

On the assumption that a lot of people have pre-ordered Jay-Z's album on iTunes and that some have either pre-ordered it to download or to have on CD at other online stores ... then that's a fuck load of downloads!

So my question: What's so great about Jay-Z?
Uzique
dasein.
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Mainstream rap/hip-hop is big business in America. Lots of fans.
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Gooners
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Jay-Z was good back in the day, now I'm talking 95-01 (R.Doubt - Blueprint). Reasonable Doubt is one of my favorite albums, classic . As of now he has gone mainstream, way mainstream.

Another thing I've noticed is that he used to be able to rap very quick. But as time progressed his vocals have literally slowed down. As you can see here.

In an interview with Bill Maher, Jay-Z was asked why he doesn't rap as quick, and he replied "I used to have a lot to say". He's just extending his career, this one is gonna be way commercial. I don't even think I'll download it. I still got respect for his early work though.
KEN-JENNINGS
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I'm not a big Jay-Z fan but the dude's got some talent for sure.  Plus he uses some awesome beats from time to time.

Recommended Hip Hop, new and old that I've been into recently:

Akir (Always Keep It Real)
Look Daggers
People Under the Stairs
Slum Village
Black Moon
Cyne
Cali Agents

Classic: Xzibit - Paparazzi
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